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Unaccredited U.K. Approvals, Certifications And Ratings

Several UK organisations claim to "certify" or "approve" safes to various standards, including European standards despite never having been accredited to do so.

Accredited European Certification

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EU Parliament regulation 765/2008 created the system that provides the legal basis of accreditation for the burglary resistance certification of safes and cabinets to:

  • European standard EN1143-1, the burglary resistance certification for safes
  • European standard EN14450, the burglary resistance certification for cabinets
  • European standard EN15659 the protection of paper documents from fire
  • European standard EN1047-1 the protection of data from fire

These are the logos of the four certification bodies with accreditation to ISO IEC17065 to certify safes to European standards you will most likely encounter on a genuine certification plate in Ireland.

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The ultimate protection against misrepresentation and a legal proof of standard of burglary and fire resistance, accredited European certification is the most important factor in maintaining insurance cover long term, as well as being the basis for all insurance rate recommendations in Europe. When there is a need to ensure regulatory compliance, for the storage of important legal documents or data, anything less than accredited European certification and the legal proof of standard it provides can leave an organisation or individual vulnerable. European accredited certification for safes and strongrooms is backed by regular auditing, market surveillance and is verifiable, proof of standard for both insurance and litigation purposes.

If you consider that 70% of safes tested for burglary resistance by accredited European testing labs fail on the first attempt the practical implications of accepting unaccredited claims of burglary or fire resistance are obvious.

 

The Association of Insurance Surveyors Ltd (Safe List)

Association of Insurance Surveyors Ltd

Frequently encountered in Ireland is the mark of the Association of Insurance Surveyors Ltd. Since 2005, the Association of Insurance Surveyors Ltd "Safe Committee," a group set-up and dominated by people with interests in selling untested and second-hand safes, has promoted a marketing list of safes, called the "AiS Safe Rating List" both in Ireland and the UK

This list of safes "approved" and given "recommended insurance ratings" by the AiS "Safe Committee," includes hundreds of untested new and second-hand safes awarded "recommended insurance rates", by the AiS "Safe Committee" for cash and jewellery, presenting them as comparable with properly tested and certified models. What is particularly shocking regarding the "AiS Safe Rating List" is that from its first publication in 2005, AiS "recommended rates" not only included rates for untested safes being sold by their UK members, and members of the AiS "Safe Committee itself, but it also includes hundreds of pre-2000 safes that should be presumed to contain asbestos.

Some AiS members have built substantial businesses on trading pre-2000 safes both in the UK and into the Irish market, so the fact that the "AiS Safe Rating List" and the "AiS Approved" sticker, were warmly welcomed by second-hand safe traders in Ireland wishing to emulate profits made by their UK counterparts should not be surprising. Using the official sounding “Association of Insurance Surveyors Safe Rating List,” which to the average person sounds like an insurance industry rating document, the safe supply trade in Ireland was armed with a powerful marketing tool for the sale of untested, uncertified, and demonstrably dangerous second-hand safes to the Irish consumer. The AiS "Safe Rating List" and "AiS Approved" logo should be a huge red flag to consumers that extreme caution is warranted.

 

LPCB "Certification"

The Loss Prevention Certification Board (LPCB) (UK)

The Loss Prevention Certification Board (LPCB) (UK) is a mark commonly encountered in the Irish market. LPCB has issued "certification" plates for safes (European standard EN1143-1) and secure cabinets (European standard EN14450) for many years, despite the fact the body has never been an accredited certification body for the burglary resistance of safes, not even in the UK, according to the United Kingdom Accreditation Service (UKAS). LPCB "certification" plates are in a similar format to properly accredited European certification, however, an ISO/IEC17065 accreditation which will be present on most accredited certification plates will be absent from an LPCB plate. The fact that LPCB claim to certify their own tests runs counter to any norms in Europe where both the tester and the certifier are legally required to be independent bodies. LPCB certification claims should not be confused with properly accredited European certification, which has a basis in European law as proof of standard, and on which all safe ratings in Europe are based.

 

UK Master Locksmiths Association "Sold Secure"

UK Master Locksmiths Association "Sold Secure"

Owned by the UK's Master Locksmiths Association, Sold Secure says on it's website that it is "the premier testing and certification house" for a range of security products that includes safes, despite being unaccredited to either test or certify, even in the UK.

One can only imagine how accredited European testing and certification bodies operating under European Parliament regulation 765/2008, the legal basis of accreditation for the certification of safes to European standards (ISO/IEC 17065) would view such a statement. The accredited European testing and certification system ensures unbiased conditions for both testing and certification through a strict systems of checks and balances and is backed by regular auditing and market surveillance. Sold Secure on the other hand have their own grading system for safes, gold, silver, and bronze, based on their locksmith members opinions of products which many of those members sell.

 


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Alan Redd Certified Safes Ireland NSAI

Certified Safes Ireland™ director Alan Donohoe Redd is a member of the European Committee for Standardisation (CEN) Working Group responsible for writing European Standards for safes, strongrooms (vaults), secure cabinets and physical data protection for the European Union. A registered NATO supplier and a longstanding member of the European Security Systems Association, Alan has a vast range of experience spanning almost 40 years and encompassing installation of safes, strongrooms, physical data protection, CCTV, alarms, access control, secure storage control systems and Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) specification, design, and installation.

Alan is an expert on standards and fraud issues related to secure storage in Europe and the UK, has had articles related to these subjects published by The Law Society Gazette and Irish Broker Magazine, has forced retractions of multiple false claims related to secure storage offerings to the public, including some published by the Irish Times, and has been pivotal in having misleading standards and practices recognised and withdrawn in Ireland, the UK and at a European level.

Our expertise has been relied on by:

N.A.T.O. Europe, The U.S. Air Force (Europe), The National Treasury Management Agency (Ireland), The Department Of Communications (NCSC Cyber Security) (Ireland), The Revenue Commissioners, Electricity Supply Board (Cyber Security) (Ireland), The Danish Defence Forces (Afghanistan), PayPal (Worldwide), Grant Thornton, The Insurance Institute of Ireland, The Royal College Of Surgeons, BFC Bank, Interxion Data Centres, The Private Security Authority, Isle of Man Gold Bullion, Brown Thomas, Bvlgari, Boodles, Druids Glen, The Shelbourne Hotel, and many others ....

Our seminars on safes, strongrooms and HNW secure storage have been part of Continuing Professional Development for underwriters and insurers having been awarded CPD points by the Insurance Institute of Ireland and the Chartered Insurance Institute (UK).

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