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Second-Hand Safes Are Not Only A Security Risk But Can Be Deadly

Alan Redd
06.10.2021

Second-Hand Safes Are Not Only A Security Risk But Can Be Deadly

With a hardening insurance market and anticipated surge in crime, more people are looking at buying a home safe. Unfortunately, rogue sellers, less than transparent with the truth, are still misleading many of those looking for a bargain. The most common tactics that will lead to purchasing a unit with no accredited testing and certification are.

  • Misrepresenting S1 or S2Secure Cabinets” certified under EN14450 as “Safes”. Secure cabinets are not safes and any supplier that says otherwise should be avoided.
  • Selling LPCB “certified” safes while failing to mention that LPCB have never been an accredited certification body. Accredited European certification is verifiable assurance that a safe, fire safe or data cabinet has been tested and certified under European law, proof of standard for insurance, GDPR and litigation purposes.
  • Selling second-hand safes with no indication of age, previous damage or if the unit may contain asbestos. A huge problem with the current nostalgia market for older safes, often beautifully restored but without regard for what the body of the safe may contain. A ticking time bomb for safe technicians and clients alike.

The sale of second-hand safes, document and filing cabinets that contain asbestos is without doubt the most worrying issue that still continues in Ireland and the UK. Such units are often sold by well-known safe suppliers and in Ireland, often via a very well-known classified ad site. One particular prominent seller of second-hand safes has even spent time in jail for fraud yet seems to continue to sell these units with impunity.

The HSA, the body responsible for protecting workers and office staff, have taken no concrete action to stop the illegal sale of these units apart from posting a notice on the subject on their website that states asbestos was “generally phased out from the 1960’s to the 1980’s”. Asbestos was actually still being used in safes and cabinets right up to the late 1990’s, so the 1980’s is not a cut-off point of any sort.

If you have any concerns regarding second-hand or older units that may contain asbestos, call us for free, completely confidential advice. We are always happy to help.


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Alan Redd Certified Safes Ireland NSAI

Certified Safes Ireland™ director Alan Donohoe Redd is a member of the European CEN263 Working Group responsible for writing European Standards for safes, strongrooms (vaults), secure cabinets and physical data protection for the European Union. A registered NATO supplier and a longstanding member of the European Security Systems Association, Alan has a vast range of experience spanning almost 40 years and encompassing installation of safes, strongrooms, physical data protection, CCTV, alarms, access control, secure storage control systems and Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) specification, design, and installation.

Alan is an expert on standards and fraud issues related to secure storage in Europe and the UK, has had articles related to these subjects published by The Law Society Gazette and Irish Broker Magazine, has forced retractions of multiple false claims related to secure storage offerings to the public, including some published by the Irish Times, and has been pivotal in having misleading standards and practises recognised and withdrawn in Ireland, the UK and at a European level. 

Alan’s expertise has been relied upon by;
N.A.T.O. Europe, The U.S. Air Force (Europe), PayPal (Worldwide), Grant Thornton, The Department Of Communications (Cyber Security) (Ireland), The Revenue Commissioners, Electricity Supply Board (Cyber Security) (Ireland), The Danish Defence Forces (Afghanistan), The Insurance Institute of Ireland, The Royal College Of Surgeons, BFC Bank, Interxion Data Centres, The Private Security Authority, Isle of Man Gold Bullion, Brown Thomas, Bvlgari, Druids Glen, The Shelbourne, and many others ....

Alan's seminars on safes, strongrooms and HNW secure storage have been part of Continuing Professional Development for underwriters and insurers having been awarded CPD points by the Insurance Institute of Ireland and the Chartered Insurance Institute (UK).

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