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Safe Supplier Scams Exposed

Deposit Safe Fraud (Video)

In Europe a deposit safe should display an EN1143-2 certification badge. This badge means that both the safe and the deposit system have been tested in an accredited laboratory against attack and manipulation and the result of that testing has been verified by an independent accredited European certification body. When a pneumatic tube, capsule deposit, rotary trap or letter slot is fitted to any EN1143-1 certified safe, the safe can no longer be treated as a certified unit as its barrier material has been extensively breached. To supply an EN1143-1 certified safe altered in this way with its certification lables still attached is fraud.

EN14450 "Secure Safe Cabinets" Are Not Safes (Video)

The EN14450 "Secure Cabinet"1. standard makes it clear that these units are not certified safes yet these units are often marketed by unscrupulous dealers as "safes" with unsubstantiated cash covers often mentioned.

Inflated Insurance Rates (Video)

Many safe suppliers are advertising inflated insurance rates for safes on sale in Ireland. To do this could legitimately be viewed as fraud, yet the practise is quite widespread.

To make matters worse, in almost all cases, these fictitious insurance rates are presented as being achievable without the need for an intruder alarm installed on the premises where the safe is fitted. An idea that would never be entertained by any Irish risk manager, or any insurance organisation for that matter.

Locksmith Licence - Clarification Regarding Safes (Video)

The profession of locksmith is separate from that of suppliers of certified safes and vaults. In most cases safes and vaults are for commercial use and therefore electronic locking, time locking, anti hold-up and duress would be common features of most specifications. As the profession of locksmith would primarily deal with mechanical keys and locks it has long since diverged from both the access control sector and the safe and vault sector.

Bogus Safe Rating Lists (Video)

A European testing and certification system has been in place for safes since 1998 and all properly certified safes are clearly marked. Despite this fact "safe rating lists" are still in circulation in the insurance industry in Ireland that proport to provide overnight cash cover ratings for safes by manufacturer or model name.

In the majority of cases this information is both incorrect and highly misleading. As most (if not all) of these “safe rating lists” contain a great many untested and uncertified safes, the most obvious reason for such documents’ existence is to circumvent the established safe rating system in Ireland which is based on accredited European certification. The legally recognised European system of safe certification is transparent to scrutiny and simple to understand. As safes ratings in almost all European countries are dependent on the accredited certified grade of each safe, a ratings list for safes has long been completely unnecessary and can have no legitimate purpose in the Republic of Ireland.

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